What is the purpose of this site?

The purpose of this site is to bring souls to the one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church -- the Church headed by Christ and built on the rock of St. Peter, the Church against which the gates of Hell will never prevail. Fish Eaters strives to do this by showing Protestants the errors of Protestantism and by teaching Catholics to recognize what is and isn't Catholic. Fish Eaters wishes to inspire Catholics to do all in their power:

• to fight to preserve the traditional Mass and all the other traditional Sacramental rites
   

• to learn, teach, and guard every last drop of the Faith in the same way that Catholics have learned, taught, and guarded it for two millennia
   

• to practice traditional devotions and popular customs that have always served to build strong Catholic families and communities, and to keep us all close to Christ

Further, the site has as its purpose teaching Catholics how to practice Catholicism in the traditional way. The For Catholics section focuses on the whys of traditional Catholicism; the Being Catholic section teaches the hows. This site's instructions are based on the 1962 calendar and Missal used by most traditional priestly fraternities, such as the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter and the Society of St. Pius X. This site itself avoids debate between priestly fraternities with regard to the wisdom (or lack thereof) of worshipping outside ordinary diocesan structures, leaving such topics to the discussion forum where all -- Catholic or non-Catholic -- who respect the rules of the forum, and who can respect each other, are welcome.

Though traditional Catholicism is less a "movement" than a "staying where you are," we strive to make this site what "The Revealer," a publication of the New York University Department of Journalism and New York University's Center for Religion and Media, says it is: "an excellent introduction to the 'traditionalist' Catholic movement."

Who made this site?

This site was written by Tracy ("Vox Clamantis" at the forum) and is maintained also by Joseph ("Quis Ut Deus"), two laymen who want nothing more than to teach others per paragraphs 15 and 16 of Pope Leo XIII's "Sapientiae Christianae" (1890):

15. ... Now, faith, as a virtue, is a great boon of divine grace and goodness; nevertheless, the objects themselves to which faith is to be applied are scarcely known in any other way than through the hearing. "How shall they believe Him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? Faith then cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ." Since, then, faith is necessary for salvation, it follows that the word of Christ must be preached. The office, indeed, of preaching, that is, of teaching, lies by divine right in the province of the pastors, namely, of the bishops whom "the Holy Spirit has placed to rule the Church of God." It belongs, above all, to the Roman Pontiff, vicar of Jesus Christ, established as head of the universal Church, teacher of all that pertains to morals and faith.

16. No one, however, must entertain the notion that private individuals are prevented from taking some active part in this duty of teaching, especially those on whom God has bestowed gifts of mind with the strong wish of rendering themselves useful. These, so often as circumstances demand, may take upon themselves, not, indeed, the office of the pastor, but the task of communicating to others what they have themselves received, becoming, as it were, living echoes of their masters in the faith. Such co-operation on the part of the laity has seemed to the Fathers of the Vatican Council so opportune and fruitful of good that they thought well to invite it. "All faithful Christians, but those chiefly who are in a prominent position, or engaged in teaching, we entreat, by the compassion of Jesus Christ, and enjoin by the authority of the same God and Saviour, that they bring aid to ward off and eliminate these errors from holy Church, and contribute their zealous help in spreading abroad the light of undefiled faith." Let each one, therefore, bear in mind that he both can and should, so far as may be, preach the Catholic faith by the authority of his example, and by open and constant profession of the obligations it imposes. In respect, consequently, to the duties that bind us to God and the Church, it should be borne earnestly in mind that in propagating Christian truth and warding off errors the zeal of the laity should, as far as possible, be brought actively into play.

Neither Tracy nor Joseph claim any ecclesiastical authority or special credentials other than those of laymen who love and study the Faith and strive to pass it on accurately. We encourage guests to read Catechisms, papal documents, and other works to assure themselves of the site's accuracy, and to notify us of any errors they might find.
 

 

Is there a statement of faith associated with this site?

We affirm:

We believe each and every point of dogma in the Nicene Creed in the same manner the Church has always understood them. We believe each and every solemnly defined dogma ever offered by any Pope or Council, and fully agree with each statement given in Sacrorum Antistitum.

We believe Vatican II was a valid, pastoral Ecumenical Council convoked and approbated by true Popes. We believe the documents from the Council were badly and ambiguously written and that said documents need to be interpreted only in light of tradition instead of -- as is all too often the case now -- by the media and those with a revolutionary agenda.

We believe that Benedict XVI is the true Pope and that we must pray for him and his Bishops every day.

We believe that all Masses offered by validly ordained priests using valid matter, form, and intent, are valid Masses.

We pray for the restoration of the human element of Holy Mother Church and a return to a Tradition (all of it -- Sacramental rites, doctrine, customs, many disciplines) enlivened by true charity and marked by prudence, the forgotten virtue. We pray also for solidly Catholic families headed by strong, caring men, and nurtured by strong women who are treated with the same respect and dignity with which Our Lord treated Our Lady.

We reject the false ecumenism, neo-Gnosticism, Judaizing, Protestantizing, and liberalizing, that have marked the post-conciliar period. From a different angle, we also reject sentimentalism, Puritanism, Jansenism, and legalism wherever we find it, and are quite tired of "trads" who think everything before Vatican II was peachy and that there was no room for improvement of the human element of Holy Mother Church. While, as traditional Catholics, we don't believe that the Church began with Vatican II (as some uncatechized, ignorant-of-History Catholics seem to), we also don't believe that the Church began at Trent and that Her human element was frozen in perfection in 1955 (as some of the more annoying traditionalists seem to). We see such sentimentalized views of Tradition as emotional escapism, as a desperate grasping for a solution to the nauseating anomie of modern life. We see it as fear.

We also reject the feminizing of the human element of the Church, and see a strong patriarchy and support for fatherhood as the sine qua non of civilization. On the other hand, we reject "Victorianism" or "1950-ism" -- the idea that we need to "return" to some rigid, Beaver Cleaver or Victorian view of "normalcy" in which individuals who don't quite fit the (natural!) norms are crammed tightly into boxes, in which women's talents were devalued or sentimentalized away, and in which women were condescended to as if they were overgrown children or sexless, Holy Card-sweet bits of mindless froth with no needs of their own. No Catholic who knows Our Lady and who is aware of the great feminine intellects and personalities who pop up throughout Catholic History should have this sort of attitude toward women. Christ, spare us!

We also reject the tendency of some to deny (or behave as if they deny) the fact that the natural virtues and actual grace exist outside of Holy Mother Church; the trend toward Manichaeism on the part of some is very dangerous and very ugly.

Our worldview is profoundly Catholic, medieval, and Italian. It is firmly centered on the Incarnation and sees the common modern desire to "spiritualize" everything away as nothing short of the heresy of dualism.

We believe the Church is a "hospital for sinners" like us rather than a social club for the perfect (may we all say "yes" to the Divine Physician and be healed!) While we believe absolutely that we must judge sin, we are very bothered by those who judge souls and who judge rashly, with Pharisaic attitudes.



 
What does the name "Fish Eaters" mean?

"Fish Eaters" is a moniker given to Catholics by anti-Catholics based on the Catholic practice of abstaining from meat on Fridays. Because of this Friday abstinence, Catholics often eat fish on that day, a food which is not considered meat (nor is it considered meat by Jews or Muslims, by the way). The term is also used good-humoredly by people who have no anti-Catholic animus, and it is, of course, used that way here.

On a deeper level, the name can be seen as pertaining to those who eat Christ -- "Ichthys" or "Fish" in the Greek acrostic -- in the Eucharist!

See important footnote about this picture!   

Is there a book or CD version of this site?

No, sorry. Not yet anyway. Maybe someday!
 
 
Linking Policy

We don't fall for the idea that a given work is verboten simply because its author may have written other works that are questionable. That is an ad hominem fallacy and lacks charity; even the Index of Forbidden Books only banned individual works, not people or everything a given person ever wrote. If a lesbian atheist (like Camille Paglia, whose writings we often enjoy in spite of frequent obvious and vehement disagreement) writes a relevant, inoffensive essay, if Famous Apologist X who might have an animus against "trads" writes an article that any Catholic would find beneficial, if a dunderhead pundit who writes 99% nonsense comes up with a good one for once, etc., we might well link to the articles in question.

Essays, like art, stand on their own, apart from the writers and artists involved, and they should be judged on their own merits (to think otherwise is to romanticize art and make it only about personal expression rather than about the True, Good, or Beautiful). The arrogant, Manichaean idea that there's an "us" -- the good, holy people who err not -- and a "them" -- the baddies who can do no good and speak no Truth -- has got to stop. We loathe it when we see it among trad-bashers, and we loathe it when we see it among trads. Most people are good and bad, and do good and bad. This Truth informs our linking policy and we're sticking to it, even if to the chagrin of those Catholics who can't fathom why we'd link to an article in the SSPX's Angelus, or of some trads who hate that we'd link to an article written by "Mr. Hated Non-Trad Apologist," and so on. At this site's Offsite Links for Catholics and For Catholics pages, we try to provide information from which we believe all Catholics would benefit if they'd get over their holier-than-thou, "he's one of them!" gang-banging mentalities. We write -- and link -- for the typically educated, reasonable person of average intelligence whom we trust has read a few Catechisms and has some sort of clue as to how to separate the wheat from the chaff.
 


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How can I contact the people who run this site?

For questions about Catholicism and Tradition, for polemics, etc., use the discussion board where many different Catholics can help answer your questions (read the discussion forum FAQ there first before posting!).
 
Before considering sending an e-mail, read the following:
 

• We don't do e-mail debate (and we don't read diatribes from non-Catholics trying to convince us that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon or what not).

• We don't answer questions the answers to which can be found using the site's search engine.

• We can't find out-of-print books for you.

• We don't recommend religious orders or Mass locations, nor do we advise others as to which priestly fraternities to support. We can only offer this link that might help you find existing traditional Masses, and this link to the Motu Proprio Database Project, a database that allows you to find others in your area desiring to petition priests to offer the traditional Mass according to the Holy Father's desires per the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum (both links are offsite and will open in new browser window).

• We don't offer personal advice; we are certainly no gurus and are undoubtedly not even close to being the best Catholics you know.

• Constructive criticism and, especially, corrections from respectful people are most welcome. If you still want to send an e-mail, use these addresess (and know that we are notoriously slow in responses; we're awful that way!):

Joe: quis@fisheaters.com
Tracy: vox@fisheaters.com

 

About the art on the front page...

The "Fish Eaters" header on the front page was made by the wonderful Catholic artist, Daniel Mitsui (see his website and his blog, both of which will open in new browser windows). We just love the symbolism of the fish (ICHTHYS) "crucified," and how the red adds just the right touch of color in the right places. If you would like to see it close-up, click here for a 2003X359 version of the banner.

Mr. Mitsui always does beautiful work, and we urge support for his efforts and for the efforts of all great Catholic artists -- musicians, sculptors, painters, etc.! We need more!

 

How do I properly cite this website?

To properly cite a website, use the form:

Author's Last Name, Author's First Name. Title of Website Page. [Online] Available URL, Date of Access

Using this site's page on Twelfth Night as an example, a citation for this website would look like the following, with appropriate date substituted:

Tracy and Joseph. Twelfth Night. [Online] Available http://www.fisheaters.com/epiphanyeve.html, July 30, 2006.

 
  
Who is Marta?

Marta Maddalena is our kitty-witty-cat and the mascot of this place. Her name pops up all the time at the discussion forum as she is the Queen of All Felines. (BTW, for some interesting medieval Catholic fun regarding cats, see Pangur Ban off the Catholics and the Animal World page!)

The site not only has a mascot, but a theme song, too, which you can download here (mp3): Fats Waller singing "Hold Tight" -- a crazy old song chosen for quite obvious reasons!

 
  
Site Patrons

There are simply too many Saints we love to pick just one, so we call on all of our special favorites to pray for this site and for all who visit here. His will be done! SS John the Baptist, Joseph, Mary Magdalen, Martha, the Magi, Luke, John, Helena, Ephraem, Mary of Egypt, Brigid, Patrick, Jerome, Gregory, Walburga, Gertrude, Hildegard, Albert the Great, Francis, Clare, Anthony of Padua, Bernardine of Siena, Julian of Norwich, Louis IX, Elizabeth of Hungary, Catherine of Siena, Joan, Don Bosco, Mother Cabrini, Pius X, Ignatius of Loyola, Michael, Black Elk, and all of our ancestors in Purgatory or Heaven: with Our Queen, pray for us!

  
 
Footnote:
¹ The picture of good Queen Marie Antoinette is here as a joke. Monarchists wrote to warn that people actually still believe the Revolutionary propaganda that Marie Antoinette was a frivolous woman who disregarded the poor and such. For a correction to such slander, see this page offsite. For more on monarchy as a form of government, see Theodore Harvey's site, "Royalty and Monarchy" (links will open in new browser window so you can easily return here).